BBC Question Time open thread: 7 May 09

Baron Steel of Aikwood will be flying the yellow flag on BBC’s Question Time tonight on behalf of the Lib Dems – BBC1 2235 and online.

He’ll be joined by the Tory MP the unkind call “Mad Nad”, Nadine Dorries; Labour leader in Scotland Iain Gray [ed please check spelling of both names]; Deputy First Minister of Scotland (and what an ungainly title that is) Nicola Sturgeon MSP for the Scot Nats; and Independent columnist and Cameron cheerleader Bruce Anderson.

A lively debate usually takes place on Twitter as well as in the studio – and you can watch that unfold on Twitter’s search website. And for those of you unable or unwilling to join the tweeting herds, our own comment thread below is open for your thoughts.

Listed buildings, an interesting diversion

This photo sent me down an interesting diversion that has taken an hour of my time this evening that could well have been spent doing something more useful. Often the case. Damn you, internet!

The picture is a view out of the window of the QMC taking in some university buildings, including the Biomolecular sciences building, the Trent building, Computer sciences tower, and the Ratcliffe on Soar power station in the long distance.

I put a question into the comments – which of these buildings is listed? – because of an interesting thing someone once told me: that the ugly concrete computer science tower in University Park is a listed building. It’s possible – listing can be about noting interesting buildings, even if they’re horrible. The rationale I was given was that it was one of the first concrete prefab towers to be built, and so was on the list because it was an important structure.

I wanted to be reasonably sure of my facts – so often, these things that people tell you turn out not to be remotely true. I can’t even remember who it was who told me, but it is one of those factoids I have repeated to a lot of people.

So I googled to find out if there’s a list of Nottinghamshire’s listed buildings anywhere and found this interesting page from the City Council which talks about listing – what it’s for, what it achieves, and a few basic facts and figures about Nottingham in particular.

It also points you at a searchable national database of listed buildings, so I typed in the University’s postcode which I happened to remember (NG7 (ie Lenton) 2RD – RD? Research and Development? Geddit?) and got a huge number of returns of listed buildings within 1km of a point on the ring road. Rather unfortunate, but within that box is the Park, Nottingham’s premier Victorian housing estate, the University, with a lot of listed buildings, and Wollaton Hall and Park – and not only is the hall listed but lots of separate features are listed separately.

Browsing the list, I couldn’t see the tower itself, but I’m not sure what name it might be under, so I can’t completely rule it out. The Trent Building was definitely listed, as are all sorts of strange things, including the footbridge over the lake in Highfields Park, and the bust of Jesse Boot on University Boulevard.

A separate line of inquiry was launched by the claims on the City Council’s website:

Buildings are classified in grades to show their relative importance;
Grade I: these are buildings of exceptional interest (only about 2% of listed buildings are in this grade) Nottingham has 9 grade I listed buildings)
Grade II*: these are particularly important buildings of more than special interest (only about 4% of listed buildings) Nottingham has 31 grade II* listed buildings)
Grade II: these are buildings of special interest, which warrant every effort being made to preserve them (94% of listed buildings) Nottingham has approx. 740 grade II listed buildings)

Dearie me. You can’t give half a factoid like that and not provide more details! 9 Grade I listed buildings, you say, but what, precisely are they?

Playing with the irritating search feature, I found a way to return only Grade I listed buildings, but not a way to find only the ones within the boundaries of the City of Nottingham.

Anyway, these are the Grade I listed buildings in the city:

Not quite sure how that makes 9…

I shall defer the search of the 31 Grade II* listed buildings to another day with more time to waste.

But one final interesting diversion was to plug in my own post code and see what near me is listed. And again, all sorts of odd things, including random bits of apparently unremarkable wall.

EDIT: Welcome to all readers who are here because of the City Council’s media-monitoring email. Do leave a comment to let me know you passed by. You may be interested in my next post which did list the Grade II* listed buildings

Tweets on 2009-05-07

  • Grief. Tory Notts tabloid has nicked phrase “record of action, promise of more” #
  • Struggling away from the Print Cave with a carful of leaflets and wondering how they’ll ever get delivered. #
  • Oh dear me, how tiresome. I appear to have lost the only copy of the handwritten minutes I was supposed to have typed up. #
  • Why isn’t it in my bag? How could it be anywhere else? I am tearing out my hair and turning the place upside down! #
  • @USelaine Jacket?! 🙂 #

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Google and Eurovision

Google have a gadget for tracking predictions for the Eurovision Song Contest, which is next weekend.

Its current prediction puts Norway in the lead with Turkey and Greece close behind on over 200 points.

Rather amazingly, it also rates the UK in the top 10, something that hasn’t happened for quite a while.

You can find the gadget here – unfortunately I can’t embed it because my blog doesn’t like the embed code for some reason 😦

EDIT: my host made some changes and now I can embed:

 http://eurovisiongadget.appspot.com/?lang=en

Over in the blogosphere, some people take ESC very seriously indeed, not least thoroughlygood, who has written at length about every song, and fisked Terry Wogan’s remarks.

For me, although I watch it most years, the pleasure comes in seeing all the songs for the first time on the night, usually with a big group of friends and a bit of alcohol. Hopefully that’s the plan this year too.

And hopefully, the UK’s entry, whatever it is, won’t completely tank again.

EDIT: here’s a unique and lolsome rendition of the UK entry.  The longer you watch, the more extreme the facial expressions get.

News from Sheffield and Ashfield

Two articles drop into my inbox this morning bringing news of Lib Dem administrations on two councils north of the Trent.

Firstly Sheffield where Lib Dems are celebrating a year in control of the Council, and where the local newspaper has written a long, balanced article about what has been done in that time.

So what have the Lib Dems done for Sheffield? They have certainly been busy and, at the end of the first year, have produced a list of more than 50 decisions, ranging from multi-million pound strategies to community projects.

It wasn’t long before they were deciding to refund drivers fined for going through the Hillsborough bus and tram gates and stopping a proposed wind farm at Westwood Country Park at High Green.

They have provided free green waste collections at the kerbside, appointed an extra 15 officers to deal with crime and anti-social behaviour, planted 5,000 trees and given parents a ballot on school changes.

The list extends to naming a road Derek Dooley Way, providing extra security for Bishops House in Meersbrook Park and giving a free book to every child starting school.

It also includes “securing £674m of Government funding to improve Sheffield’s streets over the next 25 years from 2011″

And secondly Ashfield, a council in Nottinghamshire in the constituency represented by Geoff Hoon, where the Lib Dems have spent two years in minority control running the council with a cabinet composed almost entirely of first-time councillors under thirty.

In an unexpected move, Conservatives and independents on the council chose the annual meeting to vote the Labour party back into power. Here’s the statement issued by former leader Jason Zadrozny:

“I am obviously disappointed that my group will no longer be forming the administration. Over the past two years we have tried to turn around the Council after many years of failure and neglect by the Labour Party.

“In 2007, Ashfield people rejected a Labour Party tired of ideas. Unfortunately for residents they have now found themselves with a Labour-led Council without having cast a vote for it.

“Many Ashfield residents will be angry and disappointed that when they backed Independent or Conservative candidates in the last elections to remove Labour from office, little did they know that they would vote them back in.

“Since the last election the Liberal Democrats have received several votes of confidence from Ashfield people. We have had landslide wins in election after election in Sutton West, Underwood, Annesley and Jacksdale. This has been a clear message from the people that they like the direction we have been taking Ashfield in. In all these elections, Labour and their allies have all seen their support crumble. The new administration is in effect a “coalition of losers.”

“My hope now is that the new administration will not undo the progress we have been making and scupper the plans we have put in place to make Ashfield safer, cleaner and greener.

“I wish the new Leader every success and the Liberal Democrats will continue to play the fullest role possible in Council affairs. We will be a constructive and effective opposition and we will hold the new administration to account.

“Liberal Democrat Councillors believe that local people need to come first and we will of course continue to fight tirelessly for the people we represent. We look forward to the County Council elections in a few weeks time where voters will have their chance to pass their verdict on which party they want to run the County Council. Residents now know there is only one chance for change in Ashfield and that is the Liberal Democrats. Votes for the Conservatives or Independents will mean that Labour will return to power.”

Tweets on 2009-05-05

  • @smuttley Campanology? Involved? OMG, you have *no* idea! http://www.campanophile.com for starters #
  • @willhowells did you know @thoughlygood has already saved you the trouble? #
  • @willhowells considering fake outrage that you *weren’t* in Amsterdam. For me the fun of Eurovish is the novelty of the songs on the night. #
  • Just joined a twibe. Visit http://twibes.com/nottingham to join #
  • Just joined another twibe. Visit http://twibes.com/libdems to join #
  • Stretching a tent out to dry. Tents indoors smell horrid. #
  • Driving past the White Postmodern Farm. #
  • Back to the Print Cave for an election special. And a chance to read some novel while page 1 goes through. #

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Bumper catchup to 5th May 09

Forgive me reader, for I have sinned. It’s been a month since my last instalment of LDV Catchup, the post that summarises the “don’t-miss” moments of Lib Dem Voice.

In the news this month: the G20 protests and policing. Video footage emerged of Ian Tomlinson’s last moments. The Lib Dems demanded a criminal enquiry. Stephen gave a summary of Lib Dem bloggers’ reactions. Alix investigated the disappearing CCTV whilst “Dr Pack of this parish tracked the IPCC through various dimensions of reality with the assiduity of a timelord.”  For our other stories on this, see this link.

Former Liberal MP Clement Freud died; Mark paid tribute.

Alistair Darling revealed his optimistic budget.  We had an open thread and Nick Clegg’s response.

The Lib Dems monstered the Government on the issue of the Gurkhas.  Tim Prater summarized the story so far (up to before this week’s vote); Alix brought you the news of the first Opposition Day motion government defeat in years; Richard brought you footage of Joanna Lumley with the Gurkhas.  Read all our Gurkha stories at this link.

MPs expenses continued to be a hot topic: we have the text of David Heath’s speech to Parliament and Brown’s “spectacular step in the wrong direction“.

Also in the news: Smeargate, which Stephen dismissed masterfully, and defended Clegg’s silence on the subject. When the story still wouldn’t die, he cast Paul Staines as “not the messiah, just a very naughty boy” and gave us a longer perspective with the meat of opinion polls to back it up.

In the category of “You couldn’t make it up?!” Helen told us of Government plans to replace a successful wind farm with a nuclear power plant.  And while we’re on Helen making stuff up, a quick nod to that post with the recherché neologism hashjacking.

Big, mad database catchup

Helen lists suspicious groups that include all of us.
Mark shows us what the future will look like
Chris Huhne warns about RIPA.
Helen is suspicious of anyone without a mobile.
Stephen gives a practical way of beating database Britain.
Helen found a lovely article showing “People fix society if you let them
Chris Huhne won quote of the day for his remarks about Blunkett and ID cards

Hot topic catchup
Posts generating a lot of comments this month include:
In praise of Cardinal Cormac Murphy O’Connor by Joe Taylor
What’s your view on nuclear power? 
Lib Dems to raise personal tax allowance
Lib Dem PPC defects to Tories 
Should Lib Dems want Labour defectors to join us? 
What must happen for the Lib Dems to overtake Labour?

The month in “Independent View”
Lib Dem Voice have a strand of publishing where we invite people who are not Lib Dems to write an article on a topic of interest to the people who come and read this blog.  This month, the following people took us up on our offer:
Rob Smith on the politics of electoral reform 
Lucy Parsons on
convincing politicians of the need for spending cuts
Emma Jane Cross on preventing child on child violence
Jim Killick on “Statebook” – Knowledge is power 

 Op-ed roundup
Here’s a full list of guest-contributors this month. All are welcome to submit articles – see here for more information
Chris Ward: Lib Dems must lead the way in improving scrutiny of council surveillance
Patrick Murray: Martin Salter put loyalty to Brown before loyalty to the Gurkhas
Prateek Buch: Just how free are we? 
Andrew May: We need a proper public debate on the future of protest policing in our country 
Kasch Wilder: He’s just not that into you (Or Why the Rt Hon. Oliver Letwin MP has to go)
Jo Swinson: Experiences of a Female MP: Overcoming the Ultimate Old Boys Club
Andrew Lewin: How the Prospect of a Hung Parliament could bolster a Liberal Democrat Election Campaign
Patrick Smith: What’s happening to our honey bees? 
Joe Bouke: Why the Liberal Democrats should propose a flat tax 
Huw Dawson: We must fight against the end of our internet 
Greg Foxsmith: Six lessons to be learned from the G20 policing 
Paul Walter: Cameron’s “mouse fart” proposals to reform democracy 
Geoffrey Payne: A question on the old economic model 
Edwin Loo: On Immigration and being yellow 
Geoffrey Payne: The great home care scandal 
Chris Ward: Chris Ward likes this… 
David Morton: Don’t drain us!
George Turner: Reform severance pay
Anthony Hook: Legal aspects of the McBride case 
Matt Wood: Dirty tricks politics is destroying democracy 
Edwin Loo: There is no Conservative Future in London  

The month at CommentIsLinked@LDV

Tom Brake reporting from inside the kettle
Brian Paddick
on policing
Vince Cable on the
7.15 cattle truck
Chris Huhne’s
Q&A
Nick Clegg’s greater test
Jonathan Fryer’s hope for the Middle East
David Howarth’s question about policing
Vince Cable’s budget
Ming Campbell
on Ghurkas and Brown
Vince Cable doesn’t buy Darling’s miracle
Vince Cable is a Parliamentary Eunuch

See also
Golden Dozen #111 112 113 114 
Haggis Neeps and Liberalism #4
Y Barcud Oren #7 

Tweets on 2009-05-02

  • Ooh, interesting. We’ve just had our Euro election polling cards. #
  • @karinjr heh, apparently it was totally incoherent. There has been much mocking since 🙂 #
  • @thoroughlygood I once did something similar to Rita Chakrabarti at a press conference. #
  • @thoroughlygood in fact, it was at this press conference: http://tinyurl.com/dxbtd5 #
  • @thoroughlygood it’s my other half with the obvious love of @AcornAntiques. The phrases rub off after a while. Slice them finely, Mrs O #

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